Comments on: Madman Guide http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/ For Pure Amusement Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:41:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: lloydy http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-274 lloydy Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:08:13 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-274 <a href="#comment-258" rel="nofollow">@zotron </a> Yeh I agree with ratbu too....you guys say he is an idiot. He isnt. Adding another 80% attack speed doesnt really help when you have insane attack speed already. By the time you calculate your agi and ulti Elder is a waste of gold. Rifts is the same. With your own crit you have a 28 % chance for a wasted rifts and also a 20% chance for a wasted one of your crits....why not get whispering helm or Symbol of rage or even Ab skull. and then get a bfury for the regen, damage farm. @zotron

Yeh I agree with ratbu too….you guys say he is an idiot. He isnt. Adding another 80% attack speed doesnt really help when you have insane attack speed already. By the time you calculate your agi and ulti Elder is a waste of gold. Rifts is the same. With your own crit you have a 28 % chance for a wasted rifts and also a 20% chance for a wasted one of your crits….why not get whispering helm or Symbol of rage or even Ab skull. and then get a bfury for the regen, damage farm.

]]> By: zotron http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-258 zotron Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:32:48 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-258 its difficult to read all of you retards, yes ratbu is right, you dont need rift shards because you have gash. The morons that are saying stats over stalk should also go die in a hole. Hope you realize that upgrading stalk reduces the cool down which equals better chase capabilities its difficult to read all of you retards, yes ratbu is right, you dont need rift shards because you have gash. The morons that are saying stats over stalk should also go die in a hole. Hope you realize that upgrading stalk reduces the cool down which equals better chase capabilities

]]> By: bitch http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-227 bitch Sun, 25 Apr 2010 06:03:52 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-227 r u a noob... that is one fuking shitty build.. UR lame r u a noob… that is one fuking shitty build.. UR lame

]]> By: Freddy Kruger http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Freddy Kruger Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:15:53 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-217 Stalk is a MUST have with madman beginning game no matter what you want to do mid or end game builds. You need it for escape in early game, and in end game at level 4 you use it to come in from off the screen to sneak up on your target providing they don't have an eye. Even if they DO have an eye, you move fast enough that most character don't have a chance to get away. if they are a fast character and can react fast enough, then you can still barrel roll 'em! (mid or end game) I haven't perfected a mid game build yet but end game haste and crit make you godlike. if they don't see you coming, they die. There is no chance that they will survive provided you have the mace. If you ever hit level 25 with madman, the only way you will be killed is if you are: 1) not paying attention and get ganked and someone has an eye. 2) you take on all of the towers in their base alone without healing at least once. (I have practiced it and managed to destroy every building on the opposite side with half health leftover in under 3 mins. if you add heroes, you may need to heal once or twice. but towers go down quickly vs madman.) 3) you run out of mana and don't stalk back to the pool. Stalk is a MUST have with madman beginning game no matter what you want to do mid or end game builds. You need it for escape in early game, and in end game at level 4 you use it to come in from off the screen to sneak up on your target providing they don’t have an eye. Even if they DO have an eye, you move fast enough that most character don’t have a chance to get away. if they are a fast character and can react fast enough, then you can still barrel roll ‘em! (mid or end game)
I haven’t perfected a mid game build yet but end game haste and crit make you godlike. if they don’t see you coming, they die. There is no chance that they will survive provided you have the mace. If you ever hit level 25 with madman, the only way you will be killed is if you are:
1) not paying attention and get ganked and someone has an eye.
2) you take on all of the towers in their base alone without healing at least once. (I have practiced it and managed to destroy every building on the opposite side with half health leftover in under 3 mins. if you add heroes, you may need to heal once or twice. but towers go down quickly vs madman.)
3) you run out of mana and don’t stalk back to the pool.

]]> By: Stefan http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-204 Stefan Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:19:09 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-204 I always take ring is basilius in the start. Nice mana regen 'n stuff. Combined with battlefury you get excellent mana regen and you can farm like hell. Get boots and finish vlads. End game i'd get stygian for damage 'n stuff. I always take ring is basilius in the start. Nice mana regen ‘n stuff. Combined with battlefury you get excellent mana regen and you can farm like hell. Get boots and finish vlads. End game i’d get stygian for damage ‘n stuff.

]]> By: Necrotizing http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Necrotizing Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:36:57 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-138 <a href="#comment-127" rel="nofollow">@aa </a> That is why you also get Shrunken head, never ever build MadMan without a Shrunken head, activate it, elders ulti and win. Also I agree, stats over stalk is sooo much better @aa

That is why you also get Shrunken head, never ever build MadMan without a Shrunken head, activate it, elders ulti and win. Also I agree, stats over stalk is sooo much better

]]> By: aa http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-127 aa Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:47:26 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-127 elder parasite is a piece of shit any good team will see you use it, and nuke you down in 3 seconds there a few builds to use with madman. one is to get mana regen (yep that's right) early game. this can include a mana tube or even a ring of sorcery if you get fed a ton. if you get a lot of mana regen early you can completely dominate with stalk+stun spam another route to go is hellflower, which gives you regen, attack speed, and a silence going bkb first makes little sense if you're playing madman as a hard carry. a better plan is to go runed axe first (lifetube if you're getting harrassed, manatube if you're harrassing). runed axe is only worth it if you can make it before 30 minutes, which is easy if you're in your lane last hitting. after runed axe, you gain 200 gpm and you can farm steamboots, a bkb, savage mace, or whatever else you want elder parasite is a piece of shit

any good team will see you use it, and nuke you down in 3 seconds

there a few builds to use with madman. one is to get mana regen (yep that’s right) early game. this can include a mana tube or even a ring of sorcery if you get fed a ton. if you get a lot of mana regen early you can completely dominate with stalk+stun spam

another route to go is hellflower, which gives you regen, attack speed, and a silence

going bkb first makes little sense if you’re playing madman as a hard carry. a better plan is to go runed axe first (lifetube if you’re getting harrassed, manatube if you’re harrassing). runed axe is only worth it if you can make it before 30 minutes, which is easy if you’re in your lane last hitting. after runed axe, you gain 200 gpm and you can farm steamboots, a bkb, savage mace, or whatever else you want

]]> By: Madman enthuseist http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Madman enthuseist Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:21:03 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-126 <a href="#comment-84" rel="nofollow">@DippiFX </a> I agree man, what ratbu doesn't realize is that they are two seperate critical properties, and by having BOTH you are pretty much guaranteed a critical...it just works a little weird. You attack and if the crit from gash doesn't proc, then it calculates the riftshard's crit, and if that somehow misses then you don't crit :( and as you mentioned taking out a man in 2 seconds, the 1.5sec stun + brutilizer will stun while they normalize from your barrell roll and its a kill everytime :D @DippiFX

I agree man, what ratbu doesn’t realize is that they are two seperate critical properties, and by having BOTH you are pretty much guaranteed a critical…it just works a little weird.

You attack and if the crit from gash doesn’t proc, then it calculates the riftshard’s crit, and if that somehow misses then you don’t crit :(

and as you mentioned taking out a man in 2 seconds, the 1.5sec stun + brutilizer will stun while they normalize from your barrell roll and its a kill everytime :D

]]> By: tomtom http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-96 tomtom Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:46:49 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-96 @ ratbu u gain a lot more exp if u can farm easier in the early, therefore barrel! ofc you want elder! a lot more atks and with the lifesteal and your ulti on, then you got like 2 attacks per s! the guide up top sucks, and I can say yours aint to good either.... @ ratbu

u gain a lot more exp if u can farm easier in the early, therefore barrel!
ofc you want elder! a lot more atks and with the lifesteal and your ulti on, then you got like 2 attacks per s! the guide up top sucks, and I can say yours aint to good either….

]]> By: DippiFX http://www.kuroro.org/heroes-of-newerth-hon/madman-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-84 DippiFX Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:35:39 +0000 http://www.kuroro.org/?p=51#comment-84 <a href="#comment-67" rel="nofollow">@ratbu </a> i would have to disagree with you on this one... Lillebq is right. elder parasite+ madmans ult is insane late game, riffshards gives you +75 damage maxed out. you are doing so much damage so quickly, that the lifesteal counters the health drop on elderparasite. I've taken out heroes in less than 2 seconds with Steemboots, Elderparasite, Charged hammer , and Riffshards lvl4. in one game with madman i got aniahlaiton because i was criting 500-600 evry hit, which is deadly when you are doing that 3-4 times a second. your item build is suicide ratbu.. you need attack speed+damage+ lifesteal to win with madman. pce @ratbu

i would have to disagree with you on this one… Lillebq is right.

elder parasite+ madmans ult is insane late game,
riffshards gives you +75 damage maxed out.

you are doing so much damage so quickly, that the lifesteal counters the health drop on elderparasite. I’ve taken out heroes in less than 2 seconds with Steemboots, Elderparasite, Charged hammer , and Riffshards lvl4. in one game with madman i got aniahlaiton because i was criting 500-600 evry hit, which is deadly when you are doing that 3-4 times a second.

your item build is suicide ratbu.. you need attack speed+damage+ lifesteal to win with madman.
pce

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